Comics for November 2011

[harvey-rrit]

Ouch. Looks like somebody already changed the past; the laws compelling banks to take mortgages from people who can't prove solvency were passed in the 90s. The bubble didn't appear out of nowhere.

Is any reference going to be made to the fact that, under the paint, Ben's teeth are made of cast-iron? Just curious.

(By the bye, he would know what a mortgage was. They were the principal reason why the requirement for bankruptcy laws got written into the US Constitution, which he had a hand in writing.)

[Lynxreign]

There are no laws that require banks to loan to people with poor credit. The crisis was caused by banks getting greedy and thinking they'd found a way to get money from people with little funding and poor credit. They'd take the initial loan, then package them together and "securitize" them. Essentially they sold shares in the group of loans. In doing grouping them the way they did, they made them junk bonds, but the ratings agencies rated them AAA because that's how they made money. They also broke the chain of title in packaging them in this way, causing further problems. Many properties now have no clear legal owner, making it nearly impossible to resell.

I know people want to blame government for this kind of problem, but this crisis is entirely the product of the bank and stock system.

[Zorlond]

I've always been of the opinion that if you take a loan, you've already screwed up badly somewhere.

[Spider-Guy!]

I've always been of the opinion that if you take a loan, you've already screwed up badly somewhere.

So you paid for your college edumakation out of pocket?

[Zorlond]

Technically.

My boring grandmother and boring parents had the sense to invest in stocks for me and my sister just after each of us was born. No, we weren't rich. It just meant that we were playing with plywood toys made in the garage for our first ten years.

[Akyho]

Technically.

My boring grandmother and boring parents had the sense to invest in stocks for me and my sister just after each of us was born. No, we weren't rich. It just meant that we were playing with plywood toys made in the garage for our first ten years.

Basicly they put they put the money in a corner untill years later befor saying "ok now you can use it."

I am a live for the now kind of person....so that kind of thinking causes me pain. Sure keep it for a rainy day....can you give me a 100% that i will be alive when that rainy day comes?

Why be poor and miserable now? I am putting it till later....like when I am not able to remember the name of the person thats trying to get money from me.
What do i mean later? I am poor now and I owe college edumacations £4000. How ever i get ot enjoy this snazzy Ipad my friend sold me for a quarter of the full price. SO SUCK IT!

Ben franklin could turn into a villian.............................

[Gallows]

I'm too spontaneous and fly by the seat of my pants kind of guy. I plan and plot, but that just makes it easier to move at the moment. So I can't get far enough in things to save up to pay for college in full.

And now I want Ben to tell Spinny Come With Me if You Want to Live.

[ScorpIoana]

its the franklinator

why did I not see this coming?

[Zorlond]

Why be poor and miserable now?

Who said anything about poor and miserable?

This strip's got me wondering whether or not the concepts of internal combustion were even on the chalkboard in Franklin's time.... Eh, probably not. But still the kinda thing I wonder about.

[Kenshi Morugu]

Bad to the bone
bad to the bone
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bad
b-b-b-b-b-b-b-bad

[Random Wanderer]

Ben Franklin is the terminator?

But come on, there's no way he'd be able to drive one of those things... or even start the engine.

[Nosurrender]

Do you think that after he get someone's boots, coat and steam-engined-spinning-jenny, he will try to locate John Connor?

[The Minx]

I hope this scene implies that he's finally going to get some clothes.

[Gargravarr]

"I want your clothes, your boots, and your unicycle."

...Wait, I did that wrong...

[harvey-rrit]

There are no laws that require banks to loan to people with poor credit....

Clearly you are from a timeline that has no Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

[Gallows]

This song plays in my head whenever I look at this strip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llUV6hPuQsU

[Fionn]

Clearly you are from a timeline that has no Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

.... Any who has payed attention (and dosen't get there info from Faux News) knows that the bank gave out bad loans to people on houses they couldn't afford, At the same time they hid a lot of stuff in the fine print, jacked up interest rate after a few years, chopped up and bundled good loans with bad ones the sold them as AAA+ securities, tunred it all into a game so complex that even they had trouble understanding what was going and now makeing even more money forcloseing on millions of people some of whom aren't behind on there payments or have payed off there home loan.

The only laws passed were ones passed decads ago to enourage banks to help the poor and minorities buy houses.

[Akyho]

Ok guys this can slide quickly into far of topic.

Banks bad. Ok dont let it dominate this thread.

[harvey-rrit]

Ok guys this can slide quickly into far of topic.

Banks bad. Ok dont let it dominate this thread.

;)

What you said.

--The cast-iron dentures question remains open. (I was raised by a historian. Details interest me.)

[Fionn]

;)

What you said.

--The cast-iron dentures question remains open. (I was raised by a historian. Details interest me.)

Most dentures of the era were made from carved Ivory or human teeth (son't know what they were set in) and required some effort to keep in place (hence the sour pussed faces of the founding fathers, they weren't a bad mood they were trying to keep there teeth in). That Ben's hypothetical iron teeth have nothing on the Daimond Dentures of this (http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Cohen_the_Barbarian) guy.

[Gallows]

Most historians seem to agree that Washington had ivory chompers. And I like to picture Washington as a Bruce Willis style hero.

[Lumino]

This song plays in my head whenever I look at this strip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llUV6hPuQsU

Nailed that one.

Also, it looks like this will be the end of the 'Clever use of Scenery/Posture to avoid showing Ben Franklin's Junk' Arc.

Why do I have this nagging feeling that he is going to get his ass kicked? Call it the fall of hubris, he's being too...obvious...about his powers. I'm almost expecting the universe to pull a 'Breaking the Haughty' on him.

[harvey-rrit]

Most dentures of the era were made from carved Ivory or human teeth (son't know what they were set in) and required some effort to keep in place (hence the sour pussed faces of the founding fathers, they weren't a bad mood they were trying to keep there teeth in). That Ben's hypothetical iron teeth have nothing on the Diamond Dentures of this (http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Cohen_the_Barbarian) guy.

:D

I suppose I needn't be quite SO delighted; finding another Terry Pratchett fan is about as difficult as finding a successful bar near a medical school.

I do note in passing that Cohen is friends with someone who is arguably the luckiest man in the world, though you'd have a hell of a time convincing Rincewind of that.

Ben was, above all else, practical; I speculate that he saw the trouble everyone else had with false teeth and had a mold made of his gums, then had his dentures cast to fit perfectly. This IS the guy who got fed up with changing his glasses all the time and sawed two sets in half to make the first bifocals.

I'd heard that Washington's teeth were wooden, but have no data. John Chapman is something of a hero if you consider that he ended what amounted to a scurvy epidemic in America.

Last ever, I promise, reference to banks by me in this thread:

You have a gaggle of geese, and a herd of cattle. What do you call a collection of bankers?

A wunch.

(Try saying the whole phrase.)

[The Minx]

Yay, he has clothes now! ^^ The tie-in with the main cast was unexpected, but fun.

All in all a fun update.

[Kenshi Morugu]

Oh God Heather's Heatherface. Reminds me of the Spider-Bro meme, with the cute spider.

[Gargravarr]

Aw, the Super MILF team-up had to be offscreen didn't it? When are we going to see her for real? Not just concept art or flashback images?


Still, on the bright side, Heather's face is wonderful and Ben finally got some clothes.

[The Big Bad Wolf]

Aw, the Super MILF team-up had to be offscreen didn't it? When are we going to see her for real? Not just concept art or flashback images?

Krow referred to Supermilf as a "one-page wonder" on the previous page. I think this means we're never gonna see her again.

[Nosurrender]

Just when I was thinking that this Spinerette issue missed some Spinerette. Good timing! Isn't Mecha-Maid a little man-chested tough?

[Gargravarr]

Krow referred to Supermilf as a "one-page wonder" on the previous page. I think this means we're never gonna see her again.

Well that's just even more disappointing...

[Nosurrender]

Mecha Maid has some kind of a break of character. She always been the friend and the mentor to heater because she know that she is a beginner at superheroing. Now it looks like she is snobing her for not having the judgement to join earlier a group whose she didn't even knew the existence yet.

[Zorlond]

Seems more like light teasing to me. The kind real friends do sometimes.

[Lumino]

Not gonna lie.

Mecha Maid looks sexy in the last panel.

[Gallows]

Merchandising, where the real money for the ASA comes from! Spinnerette the coffee mug! Spinnerette the bath towels! Spinnerette the Flamethrower! The kids love it.

[The Big Bad Wolf]

Spinnerette bug repellant! Wait no, there's something wrong with that... :confused:

[Project 2501]

Spinnerette bug repellant! Wait no, there's something wrong with that... :confused:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6366/image1sra.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/266/image1sra.jpg/)
(Actually this stuff works pretty well.)




Now where is my Mecha Maid merchandise?

[Random Wanderer]

Heh. MM is so getting one of those Spinnerette statues, you just know it.

[Gallows]

I get the feeling MM's merchandise is along the lines of wrist mounted nerf blasters and the like.

[Lumino]

I get the feeling MM's merchandise is along the lines of wrist mounted nerf blasters and the like.

I would totally buy one.

[Spider-Guy!]

A Spinerette comic book? Na never gonna last..

Oh....

Wait...

[Fionn]

Hmmm, Spinerette merchandise. Interesting and pretty cool. Y'know if she has any creative control over the comic book she could use it to get a really great revenge on Evil Spinerette by the Drider witch and her minions look really bad.

[Gallows]

Actually, you wouldn't even have to make her look bad, just list her as Spinnerette's enemy and standard package design law states Spinny's name would be bigger. That alone would be enough.

[Fionn]

Actually, you wouldn't even have to make her look bad, just list her as Spinnerette's enemy and standard package design law states Spinny's name would be bigger. That alone would be enough.

Nah, some super villians are half way decent people who you can sympathise/idenitfy with. Catwoman is a "super-villain" that many like, Two Face/Harvey Dent has a strong good side and has been reformed more than once, Magneto is often depicted as noble but misguided. So to truly be a good form of revenge Spinnerettte would have to make her seem to be more of a Green Goblin type villian and play up things like the fact the she trew away her humanity, turned two or people into driders (possibly lie about how voltary it was) and how Heathers' attempt at friendship was used..

[scalfin]

I must say, there's been a bit of economic misunderstanding in this comic. In the latest strip, we see an overestimation of bank stability in a period when there was none of the new deal regulations we take for granted (banks were so unstable that not only was there a book for people to calculate what multiple of the charge would have to be on a check for you to be willing to risk the bank not being there anymore when you tried to cash the check, but the book was published on a monthly basis to keep up with the rate of attrition, which is likely why the oldest bank in the US was founded in 1784 (http://www.mint.com/blog/trends/the-five-oldest-banks-in-the-world/)) and how quickly interest accrues in a savings account (let's say you put 37.5 cents in an account in 1806 and got 1000% growth by today, thereby giving you enough to buy the cheapest dinner at the type of hotel where spending that money immediately would have gotten you the "best dinner with pint of good beer or cider (http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodfaq5.html)").
Then there's the popular misconceptions of where the current economy came from. The real source was the fact that every portfolio and 401(k) was filled with junk loans that had been sold as AAA-rated derivatives. For a more detailed rundown from a Nobel Laurette, I suggest reading this (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/sep/30/slump-goes-why/?page=1).

[Kenshi Morugu]

What about a life-size plushy Spinnerette anime body pillow?

JUUUUULAYYYY!

[SpiredWarrior]

God damn it Kenshi, now I can never read Spinnerette again.

And I'm honestly a bit suspicious. Maybe she's done things off screen, but Spinny hasn't really done enough in the comics to be recognized by the national media.

[Snake]

She does shoot real spider webs?

[Snacrifice]

Spired: Spinnerette is part of Tiger/MM's crew now, and she had the big thing that was filmed with Greta Gravity etc.

Also, I want that ASA shirt!Please make it up to 3XlT!:P*is a giant like tiger.

[Kenshi Morugu]

Hey, Anna Kornikova had a computer game, and what the hell did she ever do?

[CycKath]

And I'm honestly a bit suspicious. Maybe she's done things off screen, but Spinny hasn't really done enough in the comics to be recognized by the national media.

Yes, but she has a distinctive look (the four arms), which probably trumps the lack of recognition if we're talking merchandising.

[Krazy Krow]

Scalfin: It's not exactly a bank account, but IRL Ben Franklin left $4500 to accumulate intereste for 200 years:
http://www.crackerjackgreenback.com/the-basics/compound-interest-a-lesson-from-benjamin-franklin/

It's worth $7,000,000 now.

[Fionn]

I must say, there's been a bit of economic misunderstanding in this comic. In the latest strip, we see an overestimation of bank stability in a period when there was none of the new deal regulations we take for granted (banks were so unstable that not only was there a book for people to calculate what multiple of the charge would have to be on a check for you to be willing to risk the bank not being there anymore when you tried to cash the check, but the book was published on a monthly basis to keep up with the rate of attrition, which is likely why the oldest bank in the US was founded in 1784 (http://www.mint.com/blog/trends/the-five-oldest-banks-in-the-world/)) and how quickly interest accrues in a savings account (let's say you put 37.5 cents in an account in 1806 and got 1000% growth by today, thereby giving you enough to buy the cheapest dinner at the type of hotel where spending that money immediately would have gotten you the "best dinner with pint of good beer or cider (http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodfaq5.html)").
Then there's the popular misconceptions of where the current economy came from. The real source was the fact that every portfolio and 401(k) was filled with junk loans that had been sold as AAA-rated derivatives. For a more detailed rundown from a Nobel Laurette, I suggest reading this (http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2010/sep/30/slump-goes-why/?page=1).

Who says he left it in an American Bank? The way i read it he put the money in the bank after he returned to the past which means he could have used his knowledge of the future to place the money some where safe like a Swiss bank.

[harvey-rrit]

Mecha Maid should be Chloe Grace Moretz.

--And I'm concerned about this deal. Bear in mind that Ben was once a publisher. He may have turned to the Dark Side by now.

[Gargravarr]

...Huh? Sorry, I was distracted by Heather with CG Greta-boobs. And imagining MM with them too... v_v

[Gallows]

And you're picturing London with them.....now. :P

[Spider-Guy!]

And you're picturing London with them.....now. :P

with CG boobs...

GAH MAKE IT STOP!

[SwimmingEagle]

My imagination is powerful enough to actually make that work. Then again i see Minerva instead of London. Thank you Powerful imagination! Oh what terribly powerful things you do to me!

[Gargravarr]

Ooh, thanks Eagle. I haven't thought about Minerva in a long time...

[SwimmingEagle]

Good news everyone! After roughly two months. I finally got issue one in the mail today!

[Kenshi Morugu]

And of course MM's thinking about HEATHER with size XXXcups. Les Yay, much?

[SwimmingEagle]

And of course MM's thinking about HEATHER with size XXXcups. Les Yay, much?

Hate to burst your bubble there kenshi but the thought bubble is clearly coming from heather. Maybe she wishes she had boobs you could use as a personal pillow.

[Kenshi Morugu]

I reject your reality and substitute my own, in which I am always right.

[Catlyr]

I have seen boobs that big before, was not a pretty sight...... O.O
Made me want to cry nyah! =^_^=

[Random Wanderer]

Oy, bad bottom lefty! Bad! No groping teammates! Sit! Stay!:p

[Gargravarr]

I love bottom-lefty's emotion bubble.

[shelmaliar]

This issue really made me wish i had an extra two pairs of hands, if only to have bottom lefty...

[Gallows]

I've actually always wanted to live at Colonial Williamsburg. They rent out apartments there you know. So it's very possible for Nicolas Cage to live there for 6 months.

[shelmaliar]

Why do I get the feeling that Darien's gonna end up being a supervillian in the end.

[Gallows]

Because subconciously you desire Heather for yourself or you misplaced blame to Darien for Heather being stuck in that fat suit as a disguise and her discomfort inside it.

[The Big Bad Wolf]

Nah, he's not even cool enough to be a villain. He's more likely to end up being one of the mooks to get killed on Greta's next rampage, if you ask me. Or maybe that's just what I'm hoping for...

Speaking of which, I just realized that Heather seems to be on something of a losing streak, doesn't she? First Greta, then Alexis...

[shelmaliar]

Naw, that's not it, it's just he didn't seem interested with her until after she got the fat suit... sounds mucho suspicious to me....

[Project 2501]

Naw, that's not it, it's just he didn't seem interested with her until after she got the fat suit... sounds mucho suspicious to me....

Maybe he is just a chubby chaser.

[Gargravarr]

Nah, he's not even cool enough to be a villain. He's more likely to end up being one of the mooks to get killed on Greta's next rampage, if you ask me. Or maybe that's just what I'm hoping for...

Speaking of which, I just realized that Heather seems to be on something of a losing streak, doesn't she? First Greta, then Alexis...

Not just that but they were both pretty much curbstomp battles...


Anyway, I wish I could pinpoint exactly what it is I don't like about Darien. I mean, he hasn't really done anything wrong yet, has he? Maybe it's a mixture of liking the HeatherxMM pairing and not finding Darien very interesting...

[Snake]

You're proboly just seeing his person as being the smooth, suave character that has to have some secret motive behind him.

I don't think he's going to become more than what he is now. (sexual tension) He makes it interesting but we all know (hope) Heather ends up with M.M.

[Nosurrender]

So now Sahira's powers, that she got in another chapter that most of us didn't read because it wasn't online, are the new status quo? And what are these powers? She doesn't have six harms anymore. Does hers a retractable? Or maybe her powers are the wonder twins. I sure would like to see them in action more often :)

[Gallows]

From what I know, she's a xerox machine. Around Spinny she has six arms. Around Greta Gravity, she'd have gravity manipulation. And so on and so forth.

[Gargravarr]

Yeah, she basically copies the powers of anyone she touches. With London she becomes a werewolf, with Tiger she becomes a Hot Amazon, and with Hether she gets the extra arms and other spider powers. And she can mix and match. I can't remember what Krow said the restrictions are though...

The origin of her power wasn't explained in the bonus chapter was it? And I wonder if she'd get anything else from Greta...

[Random Wanderer]

Yeah, she basically copies the powers of anyone she touches. With London she becomes a werewolf, with Tiger she becomes a Hot Amazon, and with Hether she gets the extra arms and other spider powers. And she can mix and match. I can't remember what Krow said the restrictions are though...]

The more powerful the form she takes, the quicker it wears off. That's the only restriction I remember him mentioning.

I'm probably going to be one of the few people who only knows the details of Sahira's powers because I've read spoilers, here and elsewhere. Indyplanet still does all their payments through Paypal. My refusal to trust paypal with my information hasn't changed.

So. That suit must be very tight to have that effect on Heather's breasts. And it sounds like Sahira may have cheated slightly in her silk sources.

EDIT: No easy way to flag spoilers on this forum? Bah.

[Kenshi Morugu]

I took it to mean she copied Heather's powers and shot web herself to finish the suit.

[shelmaliar]

I really like Spinnie's new costume:)

[Random Wanderer]

I took it to mean she copied Heather's powers and shot web herself to finish the suit.
Yes, that's what I meant when I said she cheated slightly.

[Gargravarr]

So does that mean that once she's copied a person's powers she can recall them at will?

[Fionn]

I took it to mean she copied Heather's powers and shot web herself to finish the suit.

That's what it looks like.

[SwimmingEagle]

So does that mean that once she's copied a person's powers she can recall them at will?

I doubt it, probably copied heather's powers while she was heading out of the house to build more sexual tention with MM. I mean patrol... yes patrol.

[Gargravarr]

I doubt it, probably copied heather's powers while she was heading out of the house to build more sexual tention with MM. I mean patrol... yes patrol.

But wouldn't Heather have noticed Sahira growing the four extra arms? I mean, the changes seem pretty instantaneous.

[The Minx]

So does that mean that once she's copied a person's powers she can recall them at will?

Looks like it. It looks like it's sort of like Rogue's power, except she doesn't drain the power of the person she copies. And going by the dialogue she does it by picking up their DNA. So, presumably it works on mutant powers, not spiritual/magical stuff?

[Gargravarr]

I'm not sure I'd count today's comic as Sahira recalling Heather's powers at will. She may not have actually touched Heather, but she still needed her DNA.

[Nosurrender]

My questions remain. Does her power work on non DNA powers too? I tought that werewolf were kind of mystical/magical. Could she copy Franklin's destiny luck or the cerberus infernal form even if she isn't human? And would her power make the difference between good and bad human abnormality? If so, it could be fun to see her getting paralised after touching MM :P

[aquarosewater]

I THOUGHT it might be DNA transferrence! It was only spec at the time, I guessed that she had used Heather's hairbrush.

[Catlyr]

I would have to say DNA definitely play a roll nyah! =^_^=

[Nosurrender]

I just realised that she went patroling with her niple's form revealed.

[Kenshi Morugu]

Never underestimate the distracting power of a nipple in combat.
It worked for Val Kilmer Batman!
I'm more worried that she may be sporting a camel-toe all the way up to breakfast.

[Gallows]

A cameltoe is just a +1 to hit bonus for her. Yay D&D geeks.

[Kenshi Morugu]

Stupid sexy Spinnerette. IT'S LIKE I'M WEARING NOTHING AT ALL! NOTHING AT ALL! NOTHING AT ALL!